Chris Ffinch and the 808

The story behind Maton’s iconic EBG808 series begins with Chris Ffinch.
Chris had been employed at Maton since 1966 (two days after arriving in Australia from England) and by 1978 was well established as one of the finest guitar makers at Maton. Chris was known as a luthier in his own right and had a reputation as one of the best repairers in Melbourne.

He was also active in the Melbourne folk music scene at the time and was great friends with many of Melbourne’s best-known musicians. Sometime in 1978 Gordon McIntyre, one of the Australian folk scene’s best guitar players had a car accident in which his beloved Martin 00-18 was badly damaged.

Of course Gordon sought out Chris Ffinch to see if it could be repaired. Around the same time Chris had noticed that many of the folk singers at Frank Traynor’s Folk and Jazz Club (Melbourne’s premier folk music venue at the time) were playing smaller bodied guitars, mostly Martins, and was keen to add something like that to the Maton stable. Having Gordon’s smashed up 00-18 on the bench gave him the perfect opportunity to take some dimensions and design a Maton version of the small bodied guitar.

Chris Finch Maton 808 Acoustic GuitarWhat made the BG808 unique (and still does) was the combination of the small body, full body depth, and 25.5-inch scale length. Most other small bodied guitars have a scale length of 24.9 inches or occasionally 25.4 inches. All 808s also had a 100mm diameter sound hole rather than the 95mm sound hole usually found on smaller bodied guitars. We changed the spec to 95mm in 2014 as part of the redesign of the range at that time. The BG808 was made from the same materials as the CW80 at the time (as was the Jumbo CJ85). It seems we were creating a
range based on the success of the CW80 which had transformed significantly since its launch in 1967, but that’s another story…. So, as with the CW80, the 808 had a Sitka Spruce top, Qld Maple two ply sides (with the interior ply being basswood) and a three-ply basswood back. The neck was Qld Maple with an Indian rosewood headstock veneer. The guitar also featured an Indian rosewood bridge and fingerboard with 6mm Mother of Pearl position dots. The was painted with a satin finish over a honey-stained top with walnut stained back, sides and neck. The binding was ivory coloured ABS. It was a beautiful little guitar with a lovely, bright top end and a very lively mid-range response.

They sold quite well for the time (133 over 1978 – 79) and the 78 version found their way into the hands of several notable performers. John Williamson being perhaps the best known at the time. I remember hearing one in the hands of Kavisha Mazzella in the early 90s, (before I knew what it really was) and I’ve seen a few pop up at folk clubs and open mic nights since. Every now and again we have one come into the repair shop for some restoration work or to have a pickup system fitted. What’s in the BG808 name? The name of this guitar always puzzled me. ‘BG’ stands for Bluegrass. As a long time folk musician myself I am very familiar with the bluegrass tradition, and as far as I was aware, the iconic standard bluegrass  guitar was a loud mahogany back and sides dreadnought.This little guitar is far from that, and I believe was developed for fingerstyle players rather than ‘banjo-killing flatpickers’.

Chris thought it may have been titled after ‘Blues Guitar’ which makes more sense. Perhaps it started that way and became ‘Bluegrass’ somehow. As for the ‘808’. The answer to this question is probably lost in time, although it may be that the 80 refers to the 80 of the CW80. Perhaps the final 8 a comment on the pronounced figure 8 of the body shape. Perhaps it just sounded good… According to Chris, Bill May would always come up with model names and numbers… B.G.808 Serial No:31 (10/78)

I vividly recall stringing it up as it hadn’t been played for many years, adjusting the neck and playing a few chords. It was very disappointing. I showed it to Derek Chan, our repairer at the time, with the comment of ‘oh well, it was worth a try’. Derek played it and said, ‘are you sure? There’s something going on here’. I played it again and the old guitar started coming to life. Gradually it found its voice. It sounded different to our more recent 808s. The mid-range was especially punchy and the bass light, but very present. This is not the first time I’ve had a guitar ‘wake up’ when playing it. It’s quite common with brand new guitars as they learn to vibrate and start loosening up. Every now and again it happens with repairs and older guitars
as well. So here it is. A 1978 original condition Maton BG808.
Oh, except for the machine heads

Vintage 808 mATON acoustic Guitar - IMG_6282

The Journey to the AP5 PRO

Ian Robinson’s Diary.
Follow Ian Robinson on his journey of discovery as he works his way towards the holy grail of acoustic pre-amp development the AP5 PRO

As the AP5 has been in the field for a number of years, it is logical for Maton to plan a replacement for it before someone else does! – so begins our journey to the AP5 PRO…..Using the Maton AP5 as a starting position, we developed AP5 Revision 2 by 19th March 2009.

The first brief was to remove the 800Hz ‘honk’ with the current system and a notch filter was developed to achieve this end. Thus started the listening process. In association with Patrick Evans and Anthony Knowles as the ‘Ears’  the AP5 Rev 2  went through repeated major changes with associated fine tuning.

We developed 2 extra controls, one a high frequency ‘presence’ and the other a super-low bass (which became known as ‘icky-thump’!) – both were fine tuned to the most acceptable/usable audio bands.

This resulted in the production of 16 simulations and development of 20 separate variations of the Printed Circuit Board during this time.
Each of these documented variations have had many fine tunings – typically 15 or more adjustments, followed by listening sessions after each adjustment. With a little math we can work out about 300 listening sessions regarding adjustments!

During this development time the physical layout was changed and the battery box moved to the end of the PCB to allow the visual layout to be equal to both right-handed and left-handed players. Also addressed was the problems associated with the ‘falling out’ of the 3.5mm jacks – these were replaced with latching quick connectors to improve reliability in transport.

The first generation of production PCB’s called the AP6 went to the production house on 26 Nov
2009. This PCB had input for Piezo pickup, Microphone and 1 extra to allow for future sensors. Controls consisted of 5 slider, Bass, Treble Volume and the new Presence and Sub Bass. The 5 rotary controls consisted of the modified midrange sweep (750-2000Hz) and boost/cut plus individual level controls for the Piezo, Microphone and ToBeAdvised input.

Complete populated boards were delivered in Feb 2010 and the fine adjustment process continued. Four more Simulations and 9 more PCB’s were developed during the next 4 months, again with many scores of listening sessions followed by more adjustments. During these tests the Presence control was discarded.

During this development time we often thought that we had ‘arrived’ at Nirvana, only to be disappointed by ‘the morning after’ listening tests. The feedback from a listening session with Tommy Emmanuel was very positive “best recordable sound I have ever heard”.

As so many changes were making the existing PCB more difficult to work with, a new layout was suggested with the 3 input rotary controls along the left hand side of the PCB, and to allow easier changes 6 miniature adjustable components were applied. These allowed individual adjustment of the 3 separate input stages, Bass and Midrange changes, and overall output level.

This PCB – called AP6 Revision A-6 Trimpot Version went to production on 14th April 2010.

By 11th August, this PCB had been fine tuned to AP6 Rev A-6 Beta, and the listening sessions continued… During this time we produced a preamp that would have been perfect as floor stock in the shops – it sounded so good, that punters would have bought it on the spot! – it sounded very average on a PA system.

3 more simulations and 5 more PCB’s were finalized reaching the AP6 Revision E1. The layout had been changed back to the battery box on the side of the preamp, as the area was now free again after the removal of the Presence and Sub Bass controls. This PCB was sent for Blank PCB production, and at that time samples were sent out to artists.

Artists feedback was mixed, with overall a negative slant – more changes were needed….

During this time a ‘quiet’ microphone was sourced and listening tests began including a microphone for the first time. This mic was so good that 2 were used! – one near the sound hole and one near the output jack.

On 19th April 20011 this PCB was taken into the Palace Theatre in Melbourne and used on a Big Rig PA system. At very high listening levels, the performers and our staff agreed that the old AP5 was still better suited!

By the 21st April 2011 we though we had the ‘perfect’ example AP6 Revision M2a of which 4 samples were produced on Good Friday! – by Easter Tuesday these samples were out of date!

AP6 Revision M2B was sent for blank PCB production on 25th May 2011 partly so that mechanical details could be finalized for case development.

By late May, it became obvious that these changes could go on forever, and it was decided to produce an updated AP5, with just an expanded Mid Sweep (600Hz-2000Hz) and a single Microphone input with Bass cut control. This was completed within 2 weeks.

This ended the journey of 28 simulations, 46 completed PCB’s and many hundreds of listening tests.

The AP5 PRO was sent out for full production on 15th June 2011

Future development may involve a ‘horses for courses’ approach, with a preamp allowing for beginner, intermediate and artist variations approach.

By late May it was decided to concentrate on producing an updated AP5 with respect to the following criteria:

1/ better overall sound
2/ more linear feel to the controls,
3/ expanded Mid Sweep range (600Hz-2400Hz)
4/ a much better and more usable Microphone system.

This PCB design and layout was completed and the AP5-Pro PCB was sent out for full production.

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